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Post by wax on Feb 22, 2012 10:50:57 GMT -5
You mean like the Rank Forces? Why not, I say this could be pretty good actually, and fitting with the overall DS-like demeanor of things here. *thumbsup*
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Post by Jinn on Feb 23, 2012 1:44:48 GMT -5
You know what I’ve realised is that we’ve never really pinned down what unit’s we will be using.
I think it’s all in agreement that we’ll using to the dull-strike system, but I’m not totally agents the idea of using stuff from days of ruin if it makes sense we should have them (dusters and bikes for example).
I also think that any Black Hole units will not be allowed, simply due to the fact that the Black Hole army doesn’t exist here.
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Post by wax on Feb 23, 2012 5:52:52 GMT -5
Well, what with Omega's departure, we haven't been all OK on this. Methinks, DoR units will be hard to integrate to the DS system. Especially in looks. Though I agree in that dusters and bikers would be cool to see. Also, the BH units can just be researched in my opinion, though we'd probably have to nerf them...
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Post by Jinn on Feb 23, 2012 8:14:33 GMT -5
It’ just with the talk of research and everything I think it would help if we know what units we’re supposed to research.
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Post by shadow on Feb 25, 2012 7:52:11 GMT -5
Leave the blackhole units out for now, put them under different tiers of use. Uh, DoR. Played that.. once. Can't remember too clearly. Oh, I remember a couple. Bikes were awesome. Though I can't for the life of me remember what Dusters were... I should go find my old game of it...
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Post by wax on Feb 25, 2012 8:32:48 GMT -5
Let's say Dusters are weak air-combat planes. That should be good global description.
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Post by keitar0hirochi on Feb 25, 2012 16:16:05 GMT -5
Dusters? They're planes with only machineguns on them. Much cheaper but much less effective than other air units, or even copters. They can't even attack infantry properly. For the bikes... oh my god, they make the basic infantry useless. Not to be used imo, even if they are awesome, they're a bit too much so to be balanced.
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Post by shadow on Feb 25, 2012 18:05:48 GMT -5
True, they do kind of make the infantry pretty unnecessary.
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Post by Jinn on Feb 26, 2012 8:28:12 GMT -5
Duel strike only for now then. At least that’s sorted out.
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Post by keitar0hirochi on Feb 27, 2012 11:43:21 GMT -5
Actually some of the Dual Strike units are broken as peanuts as well: namely stealth planes, and the megatank was just plain ridiculous.
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Post by Jinn on Feb 28, 2012 7:25:30 GMT -5
The stealth’s we could keep, but that would have to be high up on the tech tree. And they would have to be more expensive.
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Post by wax on Feb 28, 2012 15:51:31 GMT -5
Reasons they should not exist. I'd already place them at the top the tech tree, and even then, stealth is stuff that is usually broken in and of itself. It'd have to be nerfed so they could be attacked by pretty much anything that can attack those when in non-stealth mode. And the megatank ridiculousness issue isn't resolved.
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Post by CYBERUS on Feb 28, 2012 20:31:09 GMT -5
This is one of the reasons why I believe we should use DoR/DC's units instead. The Anti-Tanks helped balance out the War/Megatanks. Perhaps we should add something like the Anti-Tanks into this system. Possibly near the top, but not quite all the way to the top.
As far as Stealth units go...I say that if a Stealth unit attacks, it has to go out of hiding. Though, I don't know what new problems that would cause.
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Post by Jinn on Feb 29, 2012 8:22:35 GMT -5
No that seems reasonable. I was also thinking that we could limit the amount of supped up stuff liked stealth’s to like one per battle, and the entire country can only own two at a time.
I do like anti-tanks, but I do think that they are kind of broken. I really don’t see any reason why not to use them though.
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Post by wax on Feb 29, 2012 20:30:41 GMT -5
The anti-tanks are a real hard inversion of the game since mechs hit them harder than megatanks. The solution to keeping the megatank balanced is keeping it DoR-like (and still :s). I rather vote for the total ban or heavy nerfing of stealth units. And banning anti-tanks as a concept, period.
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